I'm giving you a 'heart' just for the title. But it's a serious matter. A good point that the most vulnerable male prisoners - the gay ones - would have little interest in being moved to a women's prison.
This aspect is particularly interesting to me. Helen Joyce has said in the past that vulnerable males can be housed in a third space, but certainly should not be housed in women’s prisons, and as I recall she included in the potentially vulnerable category trans-identified males, gay males and, of course, pedophiles. So, from that, I have, in discussions with people unfamiliar with the issue proposed that as a solution (setting aside the barriers posed by Obama’s PREA regs, which would have to be changed). So, this was new information for me, and I’d like to get a better understanding about it. In that regard, if you have a link or two, particularly with stats on this, that would be most welcome.
Did I miss spotting a link to that conversation? If so, can you post it, as it sounds like a must, if terribly difficult to listen to. Ichikawa is a remarkable, courageous woman.
Yes, in the United Kingdom we have segregated prisons for sex offenders. Partly because of cases like that of Richard Huckle, murdered in prison in 2019 after being convicted of abusing up to 200 children.
SB 132? Wikipedia has never heard of it. The multi-page entry on Scott Wiener says nothing about Wiener’s role in this. Not that I expected much from an information source whose own founder has declared that it has been ideologically captured
Thank you for this. Extremely important issue, with not nearly the visibility it should have. Your post sets out the facts really well. FYI there is currently a terrible prison bill in New York State. We need everyone’s help to give this more visibility and to urge New Yorkers to contact their state Senators ASAP. ROAR Women NYC has a call to action with more information and sample text here: https://roarwomennyc.com/2025/02/12/call-to-action-contact-your-ny-state-senator-and-tell-them-to-vote-no-on-s1049/
A side note: I confess I actually found the title confusing! It suggested to me that women do not have the same capability as men do to take on this fight. I know that’s not what you meant, but I just wonder whether others, particularly if not already acquainted with this issue, may find it confusing too.
Goddess bless Amie Ichikawa and all the women suffering at the hands of men. Thank you for bringin Amie and her work to our attention. I just doanted to her very worthy cause.
Yes: "The gender movement’s greatest lie is that self-ID is about protecting the vulnerable. But the women in prison — the ones trapped in the nightmare that Scott Wiener and his allies created — know the truth. Self-ID has never been about helping the weak. It has always been about giving men more access to women."
Would it be acceptable to the radical trans lobby to continue providing even encouraging M2F genital surgery free of charge but not the other sex change treatments or the maintenance required fo their neovaginas?
Can you document this claim that they put in condom dispensers? This seems to on the nose to be true and the kind of thing that people would easily make up and easily not fact check because it validates their priors. My skepticism is not to be taken as endorsement of males in female prisons but just that this seems like a "not literally true, but representing a higher truth" story to me.
Yes, California has implemented condom distribution in women’s prisons, a policy influenced by the presence of male inmates who identify as female. In 2021, Senate Bill 132, known as the Transgender Respect, Agency and Dignity Act, was enacted, allowing incarcerated transgender, non-binary, and intersex individuals to request housing consistent with their gender identity. This led to the transfer of male inmates, including those with histories of violent offenses, into women’s correctional facilities. In response to concerns about sexual activity and potential assaults, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) began installing condom dispensers in these facilities. This measure aims to reduce the transmission of sexually transmitted infections, acknowledging the reality of sexual interactions within prisons, despite such activities being prohibited. Reports have highlighted that female inmates feel threatened by the presence of biologically male prisoners, with some alleging sexual assaults and inadequate responses from prison authorities. The introduction of condom dispensers in women’s prisons is a direct consequence of policies permitting male inmates to be housed alongside female populations.
I don't doubt the argument but would love references on these assertions. I got into a debate with family members about this and they are clueless to the facts on the ground. I need something robust with references.
I'm giving you a 'heart' just for the title. But it's a serious matter. A good point that the most vulnerable male prisoners - the gay ones - would have little interest in being moved to a women's prison.
Or that transwomen are being hurt in men’s prisons. Perhaps the ones that are sex offenders are but nit in general
This aspect is particularly interesting to me. Helen Joyce has said in the past that vulnerable males can be housed in a third space, but certainly should not be housed in women’s prisons, and as I recall she included in the potentially vulnerable category trans-identified males, gay males and, of course, pedophiles. So, from that, I have, in discussions with people unfamiliar with the issue proposed that as a solution (setting aside the barriers posed by Obama’s PREA regs, which would have to be changed). So, this was new information for me, and I’d like to get a better understanding about it. In that regard, if you have a link or two, particularly with stats on this, that would be most welcome.
This was a hard conversation to listen to. All of us were drained at the end. Amie Ichikawa has a powerful story.
Did I miss spotting a link to that conversation? If so, can you post it, as it sounds like a must, if terribly difficult to listen to. Ichikawa is a remarkable, courageous woman.
I understand child molesters are likely to be attacked if not murdered. Even convicts don't want to tolerate those perverts living among them.
It really is in many cases the worst men who are being sent.
Yes, in the United Kingdom we have segregated prisons for sex offenders. Partly because of cases like that of Richard Huckle, murdered in prison in 2019 after being convicted of abusing up to 200 children.
SB 132? Wikipedia has never heard of it. The multi-page entry on Scott Wiener says nothing about Wiener’s role in this. Not that I expected much from an information source whose own founder has declared that it has been ideologically captured
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/prea/sb-132-faqs/
Thank you for this. Extremely important issue, with not nearly the visibility it should have. Your post sets out the facts really well. FYI there is currently a terrible prison bill in New York State. We need everyone’s help to give this more visibility and to urge New Yorkers to contact their state Senators ASAP. ROAR Women NYC has a call to action with more information and sample text here: https://roarwomennyc.com/2025/02/12/call-to-action-contact-your-ny-state-senator-and-tell-them-to-vote-no-on-s1049/
A side note: I confess I actually found the title confusing! It suggested to me that women do not have the same capability as men do to take on this fight. I know that’s not what you meant, but I just wonder whether others, particularly if not already acquainted with this issue, may find it confusing too.
Goddess bless Amie Ichikawa and all the women suffering at the hands of men. Thank you for bringin Amie and her work to our attention. I just doanted to her very worthy cause.
And look at the job Washington State just posted for our state's prison system: https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/4774718/gender-affirming-medical-specialist-physician-3-hq
Thanks for posting that.
Yes: "The gender movement’s greatest lie is that self-ID is about protecting the vulnerable. But the women in prison — the ones trapped in the nightmare that Scott Wiener and his allies created — know the truth. Self-ID has never been about helping the weak. It has always been about giving men more access to women."
Wake up California!
Would it be acceptable to the radical trans lobby to continue providing even encouraging M2F genital surgery free of charge but not the other sex change treatments or the maintenance required fo their neovaginas?
Excellent piece.
Can you document this claim that they put in condom dispensers? This seems to on the nose to be true and the kind of thing that people would easily make up and easily not fact check because it validates their priors. My skepticism is not to be taken as endorsement of males in female prisons but just that this seems like a "not literally true, but representing a higher truth" story to me.
Yes, California has implemented condom distribution in women’s prisons, a policy influenced by the presence of male inmates who identify as female. In 2021, Senate Bill 132, known as the Transgender Respect, Agency and Dignity Act, was enacted, allowing incarcerated transgender, non-binary, and intersex individuals to request housing consistent with their gender identity. This led to the transfer of male inmates, including those with histories of violent offenses, into women’s correctional facilities. In response to concerns about sexual activity and potential assaults, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) began installing condom dispensers in these facilities. This measure aims to reduce the transmission of sexually transmitted infections, acknowledging the reality of sexual interactions within prisons, despite such activities being prohibited. Reports have highlighted that female inmates feel threatened by the presence of biologically male prisoners, with some alleging sexual assaults and inadequate responses from prison authorities. The introduction of condom dispensers in women’s prisons is a direct consequence of policies permitting male inmates to be housed alongside female populations.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7407041/#:~:text=In%202014%2C%20California%20passed%20Assembly,men's%20and%202%20women's%20prisons).
I don't doubt the argument but would love references on these assertions. I got into a debate with family members about this and they are clueless to the facts on the ground. I need something robust with references.
What specifically? That there are males in female prisons or what? Would be happy to help.
links with data like evidence of rates of transvestities who stayed in jail while the majority who applied to transfer were mostly violent offenders.
I’m actually shocked several females with a shank haven’t given out prison justice to Tim.