Two-spirit supports a binary. Obviously. Additionally, natives are just regular people. Claiming supernatural powers is silly when religious people, irreligious people, or any people do it. No one has magical powers. People are people the world over. Some are altruistic, some not so much. Your so-called bloodline doesn’t make you any more or any less “spiritual” or in-tune with nature anymore than believing crystals heal maladies does.
Interesting article. It is shameful what lengths the trans lobby will go to to strengthen their rhetoric. Two spirit and Native American culture are mutually exclusive from gender ideology. How dare they impose their will on a culture they don't understand. How dare they say two spirit has anything to do with trans. In the UK they are now attempting to include minor-attracted people to the alphabet soup. Aka paedophiles. Even Joan of Arc is being lauded as an ally as she was deemed to be trans for wearing men's clothes. Get a grip.
You begin your writing with a bit of a jab at queer culture and its attempts at wanting to include a wide variety of identities and people. The umbrella is quite large and inclusiveness is the goal. Your built in hostility is unnecessary. Queer culture does recognize indigenous peoples
frequently. Queer writers have referenced many different cultures and history which includes indigenous cultures.
I enjoyed reading this. but you could have done it without the contrast against queer culture when introducing us to Dakota, Two Spirit, and, Teara. We take enough hits on a daily basis already.
I imagine the hostility comes from the fact that the queer community idea of “including” actually functions in the complete opposite way-to exclude. Exclude anyone who thinks differently, exclude anyone who isn’t willing to toe the line, or who is in alignment with reality/the truth…
Queer culture does not serve a positive function in society in any way I’ve seen (and I was a part of the culture and am still bi-a part of the real and “original” People the label was used against.
I do understand. I don't want to come off as a cheerleader no matter what. I have my disappointments about LGBTQIA + as a giant umbrella. But i'm not looking for a perfect ideal situation. I know I won't alway find common ground with others. But queer culture is a marriage of conveniences against the backdrop of a larger society which is, in my case, against trans people. So I'm willing to roll with a
group if its larger goals are aligned with my pursuit of happiness and meaningful rights for all fringe groups and minority populations. I worry about the basic stuff, such as equal access and being treated with decency and a modicum of respect. When I step out of my close social circles, I quickly find I'm wanting its protection from what is out there wanting to take a person like me down any chance possible. I adjust my expectations so I don't wear myself out or become frustrated about queerness.
Ps, I am actually queer-an original. 😝 Part of the LGB. And I don’t agree with where things have gone or believe that “queer culture” today accurately represents any positive values. Saying they are for inclusion diversity acceptance etc is very different that what they actually are for.
One may know the tree by its fruit and this fruit is rotten.
I find that people who respect boundaries of women (example, men who know that it is not acceptable to come into women’s single sex spaces) are much less likely to meet with people who want them to be different.
Where I am from people are very conservative, yet they treat respectful others with respect even when they are different. The key is respect.
When people oppress others in order to get what they “need”, then they understandably become outcasts of society-antisocial behavior is not tolerated. Forcing others to participate in my delusions, forcing laws that remove the basic rights of women to have space away from males, forcing people to call me what they know I am not, throwing a big fit when people don’t do what I say…all antisocial behavior that is queer culture as it stands today.
So the term "berdache" was invented and imposed by white European settler colonialists? Funny, it doesn't look it. Or sound like it. The recently fabricated expression "two spirit" was undoubtedly the product of people with too much time on their hands who spend it dreaming up new reasons to be offended.
And I can't omit my permanent language issue. The word "queer" is now and always has been and always will be hate speech. Only someone born after 2000, in their ignorance, could think otherwise . Overeducated, overpaid drones teaching Therapeutic Studies don't get to redefine words in common usage to make their work even more inaccessible outside their clique and thereby more easily manipulated for propaganda.
James Lindsey has a lot to say about the real meaning of queer and where it originated, as well as how it became what it is today.
I disagree that it is always a slur. You are incorrect in your assertions, because you are missing some info. That’s what comes of making unbending assertions (I am also prone to this!)
Myself (born in 80s) and many other bisexual people have used to term to fly under the radar in gay spaces where we were often rejected by gay and straight bc we couldn’t “choose a side”. In those times, to
Introduce yourself as “queer” allowed you to move in the gay/lesbian space without discrimination.
Two-spirit supports a binary. Obviously. Additionally, natives are just regular people. Claiming supernatural powers is silly when religious people, irreligious people, or any people do it. No one has magical powers. People are people the world over. Some are altruistic, some not so much. Your so-called bloodline doesn’t make you any more or any less “spiritual” or in-tune with nature anymore than believing crystals heal maladies does.
I've also disliked the activist use of "2 spirit" as some legitimacy to the trans horrors of today.
Interesting article. It is shameful what lengths the trans lobby will go to to strengthen their rhetoric. Two spirit and Native American culture are mutually exclusive from gender ideology. How dare they impose their will on a culture they don't understand. How dare they say two spirit has anything to do with trans. In the UK they are now attempting to include minor-attracted people to the alphabet soup. Aka paedophiles. Even Joan of Arc is being lauded as an ally as she was deemed to be trans for wearing men's clothes. Get a grip.
Thank you for this article.
Why it's almost as if someone has colonized the term
You begin your writing with a bit of a jab at queer culture and its attempts at wanting to include a wide variety of identities and people. The umbrella is quite large and inclusiveness is the goal. Your built in hostility is unnecessary. Queer culture does recognize indigenous peoples
frequently. Queer writers have referenced many different cultures and history which includes indigenous cultures.
I enjoyed reading this. but you could have done it without the contrast against queer culture when introducing us to Dakota, Two Spirit, and, Teara. We take enough hits on a daily basis already.
I imagine the hostility comes from the fact that the queer community idea of “including” actually functions in the complete opposite way-to exclude. Exclude anyone who thinks differently, exclude anyone who isn’t willing to toe the line, or who is in alignment with reality/the truth…
Queer culture does not serve a positive function in society in any way I’ve seen (and I was a part of the culture and am still bi-a part of the real and “original” People the label was used against.
I do understand. I don't want to come off as a cheerleader no matter what. I have my disappointments about LGBTQIA + as a giant umbrella. But i'm not looking for a perfect ideal situation. I know I won't alway find common ground with others. But queer culture is a marriage of conveniences against the backdrop of a larger society which is, in my case, against trans people. So I'm willing to roll with a
group if its larger goals are aligned with my pursuit of happiness and meaningful rights for all fringe groups and minority populations. I worry about the basic stuff, such as equal access and being treated with decency and a modicum of respect. When I step out of my close social circles, I quickly find I'm wanting its protection from what is out there wanting to take a person like me down any chance possible. I adjust my expectations so I don't wear myself out or become frustrated about queerness.
Ps, I am actually queer-an original. 😝 Part of the LGB. And I don’t agree with where things have gone or believe that “queer culture” today accurately represents any positive values. Saying they are for inclusion diversity acceptance etc is very different that what they actually are for.
One may know the tree by its fruit and this fruit is rotten.
I find that people who respect boundaries of women (example, men who know that it is not acceptable to come into women’s single sex spaces) are much less likely to meet with people who want them to be different.
Where I am from people are very conservative, yet they treat respectful others with respect even when they are different. The key is respect.
When people oppress others in order to get what they “need”, then they understandably become outcasts of society-antisocial behavior is not tolerated. Forcing others to participate in my delusions, forcing laws that remove the basic rights of women to have space away from males, forcing people to call me what they know I am not, throwing a big fit when people don’t do what I say…all antisocial behavior that is queer culture as it stands today.
So the term "berdache" was invented and imposed by white European settler colonialists? Funny, it doesn't look it. Or sound like it. The recently fabricated expression "two spirit" was undoubtedly the product of people with too much time on their hands who spend it dreaming up new reasons to be offended.
And I can't omit my permanent language issue. The word "queer" is now and always has been and always will be hate speech. Only someone born after 2000, in their ignorance, could think otherwise . Overeducated, overpaid drones teaching Therapeutic Studies don't get to redefine words in common usage to make their work even more inaccessible outside their clique and thereby more easily manipulated for propaganda.
Great comment.
James Lindsey has a lot to say about the real meaning of queer and where it originated, as well as how it became what it is today.
I disagree that it is always a slur. You are incorrect in your assertions, because you are missing some info. That’s what comes of making unbending assertions (I am also prone to this!)
Myself (born in 80s) and many other bisexual people have used to term to fly under the radar in gay spaces where we were often rejected by gay and straight bc we couldn’t “choose a side”. In those times, to
Introduce yourself as “queer” allowed you to move in the gay/lesbian space without discrimination.
Spot on. But the mangling of words and pulling the wool over our eyes is the epitome of gender ideology. Look what they've done to the word woman.